Raptor 700R4 trans

[jekbrown]

I have a low-mile (less than 2000 mi) Raptor 700 trans I'd like to sell. It has all the blingin' Raptor upgrades, plus kevlars, deep cast AL pan and an 1800 stall TC. Runs great, never had a single problem with it. Only reason I am selling is because my rig is gonna be trailered (don't need OD anymore!) and I want the biggest old school trans I can get (th400HD) to go in front of my doubler. Anyway, this tranny cost me $1734.00 when I bought it (still have the paperwork!) and I'm looking to get an even $1k out of it. I'd prefer a local (ie you are somewhere in the PNW and we can meet in the middle or something) transaction, but would be willing to ship via forward air if the buyer pays the shipping costs.

For those that don't know, here is the Raptor upgrade list. They have several different Raptor 700s now... when I got mine there was only one. Anyway, here is the cool parts they use. All there trans are new cases, not old rebuilt ones....

1. Better-than-Corvette billet servo
2. high-perf overdrive billet servo
3. Red Eagle clutches, Kolene steels
4. special 3-4 clutch release spring kit
5. HD reaction sheel
6. Mega valve + oversize low/reverse boost valve
7. 13 vane high perf / pressure pump
8. Kevlar Powerband
9. HD balance converter w/ furnace brazed fins, kevlar clutch and needle bearings
10. high perf 1-2 accumulator spring, pump slide spring and governor springs.
11. HD 29 element HD forward input sprag

I'm sure there is some stuff I am forgetting, but thats what I noted for my records when I bought it. The trans is also complete, with dipstick, TV cable etc.

Also, the output shaft was professionally trimmed 1/8" so that a np205 could be bolted behind it using a factory th350 adapter and 2" spacer. If interested in the spacer/factory adapter I can throw them in for an extra $100. I'll even include the shifter, which has been modded to fit through the factory hole in a K5 floor. This will allow you to bolt any th350-version np205 behind your raptor 700 with NO other mods required. Bolt it up and go. I'd include my 205 if I didn't need it for my doubler.

anyway, if interested lemme know, thanks!

j

[ILLYOTA]

sent you a pm

[jekbrown]

YHM.

BTT!

j

[jekbrown]

bump TTT. Does no one want to run built OD trannys that are ready to bolt on a np205 anymore?!

j

[jekbrown]

BTT!

j

[jekbrown]

TTT!

j

[jekbrown]

sorry my PM box was full, cleaned it out. lemme know!

j

[toyotamonster]

Will this tranny bolt up to a 4.3 chevy and could I still put a toyota case behind it with the right adapter or does the mod you did prevent that? Are you looking for a th400 with another np205 or do you already have one? Just asking to see if you are interested in a possible part trade for your tranny. Thanks

[jekbrown]

Good question on the 4.3... I'm not 100% sure. I've always been a fullsize chevy guy... the smallest engine in my 4x4 vocabulary is a 5.7. ;) :beer: At any rate, don't take my word as to whether or not it will work on a 4.3... because I'm not sure. It fits great behind my 350, thats all I know.

As far as the "mod" I did, all that entailed was trimming about 1/8" off the end of the output shaft. It was professionally done by a shop and it will work just fine with factory adapters/t-cases and anything AA has going for it. Not sure what the AA adapter for 700R4-to-toy case looks like... if they have a custom output shaft you have to install in the 700... of if they use something else. In either case, this trans would work just fine.

As far as trades go, I have the parts I need for my doubler... the thing I need most right now is ca$h and steel tube (1.75" x 0.120)... but if you have parts to trade or might be interested in a "partial trade" (part + cash for the 700) just lemme know what you have. Worst I can say is "no". ;) :beer:

j

[toyotamonster]

I am interested in the tranny. It would probably be next week before I know for sure if I can have the cash but if you are interested in a part trade this is what I have. Bassically its a complete truck right now but I am going to part it out. 1973 chevy 3/4 ton p/u. It has a dana 60 big hub front axle with a dana 70 rear. stock 350 motor with a rebuilt th 400 tranny and np205 transfer case. One of my good friends that races sprint cars said that year of motor came with alot of the good internal parts that are hard to find and he looked at the heads and said they are the hard to find heads. what that means I have no clue, I am not a chevy guy just toyota. let me know if you are interested. The truck currently runs and drives. I just use it to haul yard debreis

[jekbrown]

okkie dokkie... lemme know. If it does have a 60 in it, you could prolly part the rig out and make way more than $1k. I paid 9 hundy for my '60. ;) th400/adapter/np205 combos tend to go for a lot of coin too.

If you end up parting the rig, I'd be intested in the 205 as trade $ towards the trans.

Anyway, lemme know how the $ pans out. I live pay check to pay check pretty much, so I hear ya about not knowing if the $ will be there or not..

j

[toyotamonster]

How much trade will you give on the np205? The motor and trans are the only 2 things I am deffinetly not going to use! The axles I kind of have plans for but plans are subject to change. :)

[jekbrown]

how about 200 bones?

j

[kennyw]

1973 chevy 3/4 ton p/u. It has a dana 60 big hub front axle with a dana 70 rear.
You sure about those axles? Better look again because you more than likely have a D44 small bearing front axle with the external hubs that make it look bigger up front and a Corp 14FF rear (unless someone has swapped them out along the way). The Dana 60 did not get used in GM trucks until 1977 in the 1 ton K30 trucks only, never used in a 3/4 ton from the factory and the Dana 70 rear was only used in dually pickups. They are easy to check, for the front just look to see if it uses ball joints or king pins. Also look at the stearing arm on the drivers side, 3 bolts in an arc is a D44/10 bolt and 4 bolts in a rectangular pattern is a D60.

Rear axle, just count the bolts on the rear cover. 14 bolts = 14FF, I think the D70 only uses 10 bolts.

[toyotamonster]

I dont know alot about chevy's but from my understanding from guys who do know, in 1973 and 1973 only they made 2 different large front hub axles one was a dana 44 with upgraded heavy duty bearings and the other was a dana 60 with heavy duty bearings and the rear end is original along with the rest of the truck and it has the same housing as my friends 1 ton truck that he recently rebuilt with all dana 70 parts. I had a 1989 3/4 ton chevy that had a 14 bolt in it and the differential part of this rear end is bigger than a 14 bolt.

[toyotamonster]

I did some research on that tranny today and sounds like a good tranny. Is it the stage 2 or stage 3. I found out that it will bolt to a 4.3 so I am really interested. On the np 205 if you will go $250 trade its a deal otherwise I'll keep it cause a freind wants it and he offered $250 so I think its worth that.

[jekbrown]

sounds like a decent rig. Lemme know if ya manage to scrape the coin together. thanks!

j

[kennyw]

I dont know alot about chevy's but from my understanding from guys who do know, in 1973 and 1973 only they made 2 different large front hub axles one was a dana 44 with upgraded heavy duty bearings and the other was a dana 60 with heavy duty bearings and the rear end is original along with the rest of the truck and it has the same housing as my friends 1 ton truck that he recently rebuilt with all dana 70 parts. I had a 1989 3/4 ton chevy that had a 14 bolt in it and the differential part of this rear end is bigger than a 14 bolt.
Yep, sounds like you don't know Chevy's and from the sounds of it your not getting your info from anyone else that knows them either. I'm not trying to put you down or argue with you. I offered you simple things to check to verify what you have. Its not important to me, but if your offering to trade stuff like a Dana 60/70 out of a 3/4 ton chevy to a friend of mine I'm not gonna stand back quietly when I do know Chevy/GMC trucks very well.

Sounds like your 1989 was a 14SF rear axle. The 14FF has a 10.5" ring gear and the 14SF has a 9.5" ring gear. In 1973 you will have the option of a 14FF or a rare case a Dana 60 rear axle in a 3/4 ton. Dana 70's were only used in the 1 ton dually pickups (with a bed not cab and chassis trucks as those recieved a narrow 14FF). Prior to 1973 the options were the Eaton or Dana 60 rear axle.

If you want to make it easy crawl under your truck and find out if you have ball joints or king pins on the front axle. Count the # of bolts holding your steering arm on. Count the # of bolts on your rear axle cover. With that info you can be sure of what you have and not have to guess anymore.

[jekbrown]

TTT!

j

[kennyw]

I couldn't send you a reply to your PM... but here is the info you asked for on the larger external lockouts:

the front has the arch shape with three bolts holding the steering arm and the rear has 14 bolts on the cover so thanks for argueing and making me go look better! so what is the difference between the larger front hub compared to the smaller one?
The large front hubs are larger only because of the larger bolts used to hold them on. They actually have smaller wheel bearings and spindles than the '77 and newer front axles with the smaller internal style lockout. I believe the larger external lockout is a better design than the smaller lockout and has been around since the 60's on 3/4 ton 4x4 GM trucks. They were probably only taken out of production for a cost cutting measure.

I don't think anyone is gonna notice the difference between the two versions in the real world though. Either one is fine and can work well if taken care of. The bonus you have on your front axle is the pass side flat top knuckle which can be machined for crossover. The '77 and newer axles don't have the flat top.